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  JW cult suing everyone critical of the cult

  by phoenixrising in

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  its amazing how the cult has changed over the years.

  they are now suing everyone who has books or internet presences critical of the cult.

  this was never done that i can remember before.

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  Half banana

  Then they must think we are a serious threat to their existence.
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  Politically Neutral and No Part of this World....

  by Davros in

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  nice to be here.

  still a pimo and struggling through my fade.

  i still have several jw friends on social media.

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  The JW organisation is a business, it requires political skill to control the minds and actions of so many individuals. As their organisational confidence rose due to increasing numbers and consequent wealth in the late 1980s, they were emboldened to join the UN. This was it seems to pave the way for their expansion in the east of Europe and elsewhere.

  By its own value judgements the organisation should have been disfellowshipped for this! But in a cult there are no checks or balances, it is totalitarian, the membership have no say, no veto, they are powerless.

  Individuals are routinely excommunicated for lesser offences but the leaders place themselves above the principles of the common herd. When their sins were found out by the UK Guardian newspaper, they gave no apology just excuses. To become an NGO member of the UN a necessary part of the formal agreement is to share the ideals of that organisation. The Watchtower is implacably opposed to international efforts for world peace by human agency and for this reason it had denounced the UN from its inception.

  They demonstrated they have no conscience. What remains of the JW governing body's involvement in politics is a prime example of their utter hypocrisy. It is the self interest of the governing body which rules supreme in Watchtower land.
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  Ashya king's father plague sent by god

  by Fadeaway1962 in

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  2. beliefs

  https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11530647/ashya-king-brain-cancer-mum-spain-split/ .

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  Half banana

  Then JWs are a plague sent from Satan......
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  The purpose of conversion testimonies and stories

  by LeeT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a hunch has just struck me.we get frequent accounts in the literature and videos of people whose dysfunctional lived have been turned around by studying with the jw's and coming to belief in the org (sorry, jehovah).

  evangelical type christian groups also use similar testimony stories.here's the hunch:the purpose of these is quite different among jw's compared to other religions.other groups use these testimonies primarily to persuade non-believers.the jw's use them to reinforce the beliefs of those already in the "truth.

  "any thoughts?.

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  I think it's worth pointing out that JW "experiences" are dished out to the already converted since the public generally avoid the KH.

  So the life stories of individuals are about the unbelievable blessings showered down from heaven only on those who heroically carry out the wishes of the organisation. (excuse me while I vomit)
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  New in the neighborhood..

  by Italiancalipso in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not totally new here, as i'm reading since some time...then i tried to sign up but had some technical issue with the email,eventually recovered..... i'm from north italy, for your info from the region where the covid is worse.

  i'm male, generation millennial(...unfortunately not the overlapped generation :))) ) ..sorry to don't go in so much details, but i'm pimo ;).

  hope i can contribute to this community and help as much i got from you guys.... have nice weekend!.

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  Benvenuto nel quartiere Italiancalipso.
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  When do the 2300 days begin?

  by Kosonen in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when to begin the countdown of the 2300 days?

  to get an idea, it could be helpful to discern when those days end relative to time times and half a time.. i see a possibility that the 2300 days end the same day as the 1260 days.

  that is because the woman in revelation 12 will be fed 1260 days.

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  Kosonen, let's put your theory into context. Do you think that an all knowing and loving creator would give his devotees this extremely obscure information which only you and possibly a handful of others have figured out?

  If your children were stuck in some godless labyrinth, all about to die and desperately wanting to escape; would you give them cryptic mathematical clues -- which may or may not work?

  Of course not, you would be very specific because you love your children!

  You have been away from the JW business now for at least 12 years but dare I say that you are still infected with the JW 'end time' mentality trap. And the world is not going to end! And Covid 19 is just a small blip in the history of pandemics, far, far worse have visited mankind and the world trundled on.

  I say this with genuine concern for you because like nearly everyone else on this site.... we were all deluded and snagged on Armageddon and paradise. It's a fantasy!

  We looked to the Bible as an authority and we looked to the JW organisation as being divinely guided. Sorry to say, BOTH of these 'authorities' are intellectually unsustainable.
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  When do the 2300 days begin?

  by Kosonen in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when to begin the countdown of the 2300 days?

  to get an idea, it could be helpful to discern when those days end relative to time times and half a time.. i see a possibility that the 2300 days end the same day as the 1260 days.

  that is because the woman in revelation 12 will be fed 1260 days.

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  Kosonen were you aware the the book of Daniel was written in the Hellenistic Classical period as a historical novel about ancient Babylon? He wrote a good yarn like Dan Brown might write today.

  There is no such thing as useful prophecy! The Bible was compiled as a political tool by Roman power for Roman unity. It's so full of errors, contradictions, unreliable history and hype that it's really not worth too much attention.

  'Holiness' is a human construct used by religious leaders to enslave the herd.

  Fortunately there are accurate and useful sources of information very much worth reading and readily available.
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  Alert: Following blindly jw.org these day / RISK

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this night i could not sleep and my thoughts went on and on.

  the result:.

  i observe that many jw family members follow the instructions of the elders at zoom meetings like they come directly from god.

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  Half banana

  Most religious folk want to see evidence of their supernatural beliefs, they want a bit of the action so to speak.

  Jehovah's Witnesses also want to see some actual manifestation of their deeply held hopes -- but alas! the Watchtower in 141 years has never got anything right and never will because it is a self serving and deliberately ignorant cult whose only interest is in its own preservation.

  Consequently when something extraordinary happens like the corona pandemic, they herald it as a divine signal. In wish fulfilment, "This is it!" they think, "Yes it's actually starting" they say. However no one -- no one who is sane, actually sees or claims evidence for the work of a spirit world because it only lives in the collective imagination of believers.

  So this is not the beginning of the end, there is no end, it's a pandemic. We cope as best we can and look forward to when it's finished but the JW will say afterwards in an attempt to justify their mistake, "Jerhoover has given us a foretaste of what is to come" and stick their stupid heads back in the sand.
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  Fading

  by Cordelia18 in

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  2. friends

  hi i was on here a few years ago, i ended up caving to family pressure and returning to the borg i've since married and have 2 children .

  all the reasons i returned are still here, my parents are elderly and i really don't want to hurt them but i just can't do it anymore i need to leave before my kids are brainwashed, i need to be clever this time .

  last time i was dfed and became dependant on drink i am in aa and sober now and learning the true meaning of sprituality i know without a doubt that it is a dangerous cult, but i need some tips on fading, its so hard when i want to shout from the roof tops how blind they are.

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  Hi Cordelia and welcome!

  Yes fading is the right way to go... The first thing to remember is never to indicate that you don't agree with the teachings of the organisation, to do so means an unfriendly inquisition and you will be disfellowshipped -- which would make family contact difficult.

  So the best way to fade is to take it slowly and claim anything other than religious reasons for not attending. Say you are busy with other things for example but never go into details -- it's none of their business! Avoid calls from elders and don't turn up or answer the door if they say they are coming. They will hound you so be resolved to fade away from their attention. (They do give up in the end).

  Look after your parents and all the best with your future life free of the obnoxious Borg.
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  Any suggestions

  by Xena73 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just woke up and i'm new on here.

  if your an unbaptized publisher can you be disfellowshipped or dissociated?

  please send me a message.

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  Half banana

  Hi Xena and welcome! You were never 'fellowshipped' in the first place so you can't be dis-fellowshipped. Lucky you! Just drift away, they have no authority over you.

  If you have a grievance and like Anna Marina have a stack of intellectual weapons to fight with, then you might want to show them where they are wrong or why you can't continue but remember, brick walls are more responsive to reason than a fully committed JW is.